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  • Dan - Lucian Ștefancu 8:16 pm on March 26th, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure,   

    Quick question. Where should I keep a log of the changes made in translation? I thought of keeping a handbook with some translation rules on the Rosetta site.

     

    • Stas Sușcov 8:54 am on March 27th, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I think the best would be to use a wiki page, or forum.
      Though I should probably send a patch for glotpress so we can have a feed (with changes you make) for integration with profiles.wordpress.org

      • Wacław J. 7:44 am on March 31st, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        I’m planning to write a glossary feature for GlotPress. There’s already an idea to do this, search the ticket base for “glossary”. Do you want to join in? 🙂

  • Akerbeltz 2:40 pm on December 13th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure   

    A question about the main http://wordpress.org/ website – how is a user supposed to know there are localized versions of WP? There don’t seem to be any links. For some reason, I get a yellow box suggesting it’s available in German but German is way below Gaelic (the order I’m using is gd, en, de) in my preferred languages setting in Firefox and even if, not everyone who might want WP in language X uses a browser in language X. Am I missing something or is that just an oversight?

     

    • Nikolay Bachiyski 12:43 pm on December 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      This should be fixed now: http://cl.ly/CdIk

      • Akerbeltz 12:59 pm on December 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Ok, the autodetect is fixed, thanks very much. But is there a static link to some page where people can browse through the available releases? Not everyone has the right language settings adjusted correctly.

        • Zé 1:28 pm on December 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          • Nikolay Bachiyski 2:15 pm on December 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            @vanillalounge, he means all available languages, I guess.

            @akerbeltzalba, such a page has been on the TODO list for some time 🙂 We will get there some day.

            • Akerbeltz 4:17 pm on December 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

              Yes, that’s what I mean. Here, many people don’t use a Gaelic browser and unless they know the gd.wordpress page, they won’t know it exists. Will be the case for many other locales too.
              @Nikolay I look forward to it – can’t be hard to write though, it’s just a “list” – currently a bit like creating an art gallery and then hiding most paintings in the basement behind the boiler 😉

  • Wacław Jacek 10:20 pm on November 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure   

    There’s a bug on the tag policy page – there are two rows with the “request” tag, though one links to “announcements”. 🙂

     

  • Wacław Jacek 11:20 am on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure,   

    Since this blog serves as both a place for announcements and discussion, it’s quite hard to filter out the /really/ important messages, such as new version notifications. Because of that, I have an idea – maybe a new blog could be created, e.g. wppolyglots-announcements (though that is a really long name), on which only important announcements from the core developer team would be posted?

     

    • Mattias Tengblad 11:37 am on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Please no. Not yet another blog. Let’s just put the resources on creating a proper translation team portal @ wp.org with bbPress and/or BuddyPress.

      • Wacław J. 2:25 pm on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        It doesn’t have to be a blog, it could be anything that could be easily distinguished from other WP Polyglots messages as important (particularly by automated e-mail filters :)).

        • Wacław J. 2:28 pm on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Sorry for doubleposting. Another way to do it would require announcement posters to tag their messages with “announcement”, then we could use this: https://wppolyglots.wordpress.com/tag/announcement/feed/ (But since this requires doing this by hand, it’s probably not the best idea. Maybe change the blog a bit so this is done automatically?)

          • Andrew Nacin 4:48 pm on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            I’ve nearly used the announcement tag. Next time I need it, I’ll add it to the tag policy and implement it on previous announcements.

            We can also make these more prominent soon.

          • Mattias Tengblad 5:06 pm on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            I like the concept of having a channel specific for announcements.We probably need one for requests too. This does on the other hand make things very cluttered here (as per your point) but to scatter it over even more sites is not good.

            Like I’ve suggested a bunch of times, we should be hosted at wp.org, we should be able to have a platform a bit more suitable (bbPress/BuddyPress) for communication rather than a blog for the whole translation community of WordPress. I don’t quite get why these kind of suggestions are constantly ignored.

            Get me right, P2 is a nice platform, but not for this many people and this kind of flow of posts.

  • Andrew Nacin 10:26 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , infrastructure,   

    Validators are now controlled through Rosetta

    Editors of Rosetta sites can now control who the validators are for their language. GlotPress will use these permissions across all projects on translate.wordpress.org. You no longer need to post validator requests here.

    Validators are users of that locale’s Rosetta site having the role of Editor, Author, or Contributor. You can also use the new role of Validator (otherwise equivalent to Subscriber). I’ve ported over all existing validators.

    Editors can now add and promote users, as well as edit the theme’s screenshots and navigation menu (Themes > Custom Header and Menus, see previous post). All administrators are now editors instead.

    With this change, we’re also dropping support for locales that do not have a Rosetta site. This applies to 21 languages*, all of which are inactive anyway. GlotPress will no longer function properly for these languages, and a future cleanup will likely remove them from SVN and elsewhere.

    (* – Affected languages are: br, gd, kk, ku, lt, mn, no, pa_IN, zh, az, bn_BD, en_GB, es_CO, fo, haw_US, is_IS, kn, ky_KY, lb_LU, ta_IN, ur.)

     

    • Zé 10:30 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Keep in mind that the most immediate effect of this is that you cannot have a locale on GlotPress without the corresponding xx.wordpress.org site, as that site is the *only* place where validators are defined. If your language is missing please post your request on this blog and we’ll take care of it asap.

      • Andrew Nacin 10:32 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Yeah, the 21 languages affected were those with at least one validator. Other languages might also be affected, but that means we don’t have a validator (or the language).

        • Gabriel Reguly 10:34 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Hi Nancin,

          Please see coment below.

          Thanks,
          Gabriel

          • Andrew Nacin 10:38 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            It’s Nacin, not Nancin, and you don’t need to talk to me through Zé, I’m right here.

            You are not br. You are pt_BR. br is the internal GlotPress slug for Breton (per ISO 639-1). If they ever request a subdomain, they’ll be bre.wordpress.org.

            • Gabriel Reguly 10:55 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

              Hi Nacin,

              First, sorry about misspelling your surname 😛

              Zé is our kind helper, I have the bad habit of getting his help every time.

              Also it seemed to me that he could explain my issue better than me.

              Still, we have br.wordpress.org and our locale is pt_BR.

              Maybe I misread Zé’s comment, but I am under impression that we might have needed to have pt_BR.wordpress.org, instead of our current br.wordpress.org.

              Thanks,
              Gabriel

      • Rami 10:56 am on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Hi ze, i am a he_IL validator (for all wp.org projects in hebrew), but i can’t aceess to my he.wordpress.org account. i see that he_il language was not affected.

    • Gabriel Reguly 10:33 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Oi Zé,

      Please talk to Nancin, as we have br.wordpress.org, but our locale is pt_BR.

      Obrigado,
      Gabriel

      • Zé 10:40 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        @nacin is right above you, look up… 😉

        • Gabriel Reguly 10:58 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Shame on me, I was in the middle of the comment and just pressed enter without reading the new comment.

          Thanks for your patience 😛

    • pavelevap 10:47 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Great! Two questions:
      1) Any chance to limit some validator rights to specific projects? If there are users with role Validator and they were limited to one project, they can access all projects now?
      2) Can we setup new projects, for example cs_CZ for bbPress?
      P.S. I can see that SergeyBiryukov is user of cs_CZ? It is probably any mistake?

      • Zé 10:50 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        1) and 2) Not at the moment
        PS-Sergey is ru, so probably a mistake. Feel free to remove him.

        • pavelevap 11:01 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Ad 1) That is a little problem. We need to allow for example BuddyPress for some users, but do not want to let them change other projects.

          Yes, I would like to remove Sergey, but it is not possible.
          There is also user swienczyk, but we do not know him and now he can validate everything. Is it possible to know when this user was added and for which project? Thank you.

          • Zé 11:04 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            I’ve removed Sergey and swienczyk and will look into the issue

            • pavelevap 11:14 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

              OK, thank you. I also doubt about converting all current users. I remember there was validator (he is not active) for Android project, but he was not converted (not visible between Rosetta users).

              • Andrew Nacin 11:16 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

                swienczyk was the validator for the Android project, I just confirmed.

                • pavelevap 11:18 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

                  OK, thank you! Mystery solved 🙂

          • Andrew Nacin 11:29 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

            Editors can now remove users. Forgot about that part.

            • Rafael Poveda - RaveN 8:46 am on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

              I’m editor and I can only remove user, not promote subscribers to validators. Did I need to remove and add again?

              • Rafael Poveda - RaveN 9:12 am on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

                Found how to do it! Sorry 😛

      • Sergey Biryukov 3:10 pm on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        P.S. I can see that SergeyBiryukov is user of cs_CZ? It is probably any mistake?

        Yep, some time ago I registered as a subscriber on cs.wordpress.org. I can’t remember the exact reason though, probably to test WordPress with Czech language files, which are available without registration anyway.

    • Xavier 11:11 pm on July 19th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent integration! Kept looking for a dedicated Validators menu, when the obvious stroke me 🙂

      Thanks!

    • گناهکار 12:36 pm on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Are they (validators, editors) have SVN access too?

    • Xavier 10:22 pm on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      One question, now that my head has rested: one validator was known to me, but isn’t part of the WPFR translation team (he does translation for BuddyPress). Another one of the validators is totally unknown to me.

      So, question: does the current list encompass all translate.wp.org validators for a given language, regardless of the project? If so, does my changing their role change their rights on the project(s) they’ve been working on?

    • Mark Thomas Gazel 7:30 pm on August 3rd, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Great work Andrew. Wonderful. I have a question though.

      Where were the users ported from? In da.wordpress.org there are now 18 users.

      3 Editors (former validators)
      2 Validators
      13 Subscribers

      I know the three Editors. They are the former Validators of WordPress. All fine. I think the two Validators are validators in the BuddyPress projects. And they are now language-wide. All fine too.

      As for the 13 Subscribers – I have no idea. Don’t recognize any of them. They have no priviliges but I would still like to know how they ended up on the list.

      • Mark Thomas Gazel 8:43 pm on August 3rd, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Oh, now I see:

        “You can also use the new role of Validator (otherwise equivalent to Subscriber).”

        So i guees the two “validators” have no priviliges and can’t validate strings.

      • Andrew Nacin 1:28 am on August 5th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        No Subscribers were added during this transition. I think it had to do with when Rosetta was on older versions of MU. You can remove them.

        Edit: Sorry, I hit Reply too early. Validators are equivalent to subscribers as it pertains to Rosetta (WP) access. As the name indicates, they *can* validate. The role simply offers you the ability to give someone validator privileges without providing them Rosetta posting/management permissions. Hope that makes sense.

  • Andrew Nacin 8:56 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , infrastructure,   

    We’re working on some Rosetta updates. Here’s the first two: Menus and Screenshots.

    You no longer need to request a deploy for Rosetta screenshots. Instead, you should now use the Custom Header feature under Appearance. The size is limited to 466px by 303px, the same width we use on WordPress.org.

    You no longer need to use the Rosetta menu editor under Tools. You can now go to the Menus feature under Appearance. You are limited to top-level menu items, as before.

    Screenshots needn’t be committed to svn anymore as they won’t be deployed. I’ll be phasing out the old menus system soon. It took me three minutes to switch over pt_PT and I don’t even understand Portuguese, so it’s quite easy.

     

    • Zé 9:02 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Note that updates to the language files of rosetta itself *still* need to be committed to svn and their deploy requested. Thanks for this @nacin.

    • Andrew Nacin 9:09 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks to an enhancement in 3.2, you can upload multiple images and get random rotation, just like wp.org home.

    • Zé 9:15 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      You can now go to the Menus feature under Appearance.

      and before you ask, yes, this means you can remove the contact page… 🙂

    • Nikolay Bachiyski 9:08 am on July 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Cool, thanks, @nacin.

    • Milan Dinić 9:11 am on July 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      What role user needs to be able to access Appearance and what is default one on locale sites since I can’t access it?

      • Zé 10:28 am on July 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Admin. Your were Editor, but I’ve changed it now. Try again?

    • jiehanzheng 11:31 pm on July 15th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      I noticed that the image quality is very bad, regardless which file format I updated, and which quality I chose. Guys do you have any idea on this? Do you have this problem as well?

    • Mattias Tengblad 12:25 am on July 16th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Is there any plans on updating the rosetta theme to look more like the main .org site (and not like the old one)?

    • sofyand 3:55 am on July 16th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Is there any way to highlight the “Download” menu item like it used to be (the orange tab thingy)?
      css class id=download like before.

    • Stas Sușcov 9:46 am on July 20th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      GG!
      May I mention grunion contact form? 🙂

    • Wacław J. 2:29 pm on July 22nd, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      The changes you have been implementing are great, I’ve found one bug though – if you use a menu created with the custom menu feature, when you’re on a homepage, it’s not shown as the active page, whlie with the old menu feature it is.

    • Rami 11:06 pm on July 25th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Nacin, can you add a new template-page for blog posts. I want to create a new page called “blog” or “news” where all the posts will be presented.

  • suscov 9:41 pm on July 13th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , infrastructure, localize   

    This is totaaly weird, what is the reason of tags (3.x, 3.1.x, 3.2.x) in GlotPress if the translations are not copied along?
    I’m using my tool, localize to test the translations, and when I tried to switch to 3.2.x, it downloaded an empty .mo file.

    Which is wrong, because people will think that previous versions were not translated at all :/

     

    • Stas Sușcov 9:43 pm on July 13th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Sorry for typos 🙂

    • Zé 10:04 pm on July 13th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      This is a glitch and not intended behaviour. Could you upload the 3.2 .po to GlotPress in the meantime?

    • Gabriel Reguly 1:49 am on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      @Zé, could you give me validator permissions so I can upload 3.2 .po for pt_BR ?

      Username is Gabriel Reguly, and since 3.0.5 I have been building/releasing the pt_BR packages

      Thanks in advance.

    • Nikolay Bachiyski 11:39 am on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Actually, it’s not a glitch. At some point I stopped transferring the translations to older branches, because many teams didn’t use them and I just didn’t want to fill the database with extra stuff.

      If there is enough demand, I can sync the translations, too, not only the translation sets.

      • Stas Sușcov 12:11 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Hmm, I don’t think it’s worth keeping up all those things, so you are right.

        I was wondering in this case, if we can preserve only deltas (changes that not persist in latest branch)?

      • Zé 1:12 pm on July 14th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Agreed for the true older branches, but 3.2.x is hardly an “older branch”. It had to do with the creating/renaming the dev (future 3.3) and leaving 3.2.x empty of translations.

  • Diana 8:45 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , infrastructure,   

    Hi there, I want to ask something: please add context to label’ stringst! In WordPress, bbPress, BuddyPress everything! We get upset when strings doesn’t fit at same line, are meanless or just looks weird where they belong.

     

  • suscov 2:33 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , infrastructure,   

    Hey, there’s something absolutely weird happening with GlotPress, a contributor reported that the latest translations are not pulled into the build. I double checked and it’s true.

    I’m trying for 3rd time to build the 3.2 release, and no luck, the localization file content, is outdated. Look for ‘All Posts’:

    Here’s the screen with the settings on rosetta:

    Please somebody have a look. Some guys are starting to blame us 😦

     

    • Stas Sușcov 2:35 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      The most weird, is that if I use my localize plugin, the mo file is ok!!!

    • Zé 2:37 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Could this be related to the rogue .mo issue?

      • Stas Sușcov 3:07 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Checking… Yes, looks like that.
        I removed twentyten, kubrick, xx_XX.(po|mo) files/folders, since all that stuff is now handled by GlotPress. Looks like it fixed the problem.

        Btw, I saw most of the locale repositories still have those files, so I would recommend everyone double check their locale build!!!

      • Stas Sușcov 3:08 pm on July 6th, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks 😉

  • suscov 5:40 pm on May 26th, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure,   

    Now that we have 3.2 on XX.wordpress.org, can we have those grunion contact forms? Please please…
    cc @nacin @vanillalounge

     

    • Zé 8:36 am on May 31st, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      As per IRC conversation earlier, I vote for making the existing contact form an option, and leave grunion out of this altogether.

  • Milan Dinić 7:41 pm on November 13th, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure   

    Was anything done with improvements on how localization of plugins is handled, about what we talked around 3.0 release and what was later planned as 3.org project?

     

  • Milan Dinić 9:23 am on September 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure   

    Zé, is there any revision of this post, AtD removed whole text and Ctrl + Z didn’t work?

     

    • Zé 11:14 am on September 3rd, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Can’t find any, sorry

  • Peter Holme Obrestad 10:09 am on August 3rd, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , infrastructure   

    I created a new page with a tag policy on how to tag your posts… check it out!

     

  • Peter Holme Obrestad 12:03 pm on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink
    Tags: infrastructure, mentions, ,   

    All right, I’ve posted some suggestions for improving the “mentions” functionality of the p2 theme to make this promising feature more useable: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/mentions?replies=1#post-1625903

    (Discussion closed here, since it belongs in the forum)

     

  • Matt 3:06 am on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: infrastructure   

    Excited to see this. 🙂

     

    • Remkus de Vries 7:44 am on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Good 🙂 Makes much more sense to use this platform, especially with P2 to keep track, for request, questions and general feedback.

    • Peter 9:37 am on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks, @matt!

      • Peter 9:43 am on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        hmm.. haven’t got around to learning about those mentions yet… Could be useful, but it’s hard to sniff out usernames… maybe the tooltip text of the comment author link should include the author username in a parantheses or something? I guess I’ll head over to the forums and suggest that…

        • Peter 10:23 am on August 2nd, 2010 Permalink | Reply

          And also, apparently the user has to have a role on the blog (eg I have to add him/her to the blog) before s/he can be mentioned… And if a user (such as Matt at the present) has only posted a post, not a comment, I have no means of getting that users email address (which is used to add that user to the blog). Post authors are not automatically added to the blog (unfortunately – could be added as contributors or something).

    • obicey 5:55 pm on August 27th, 2010 Permalink | Reply

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