@vanillalounge @eyesx and others.. I created a ticket here: http://glotpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/166 based on these posts:
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Peter Holme Obrestad
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Peter Holme Obrestad
WordPress 3.3-Beta2 released, svn revision 19023 (hope I am correct about this 🙂 )
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Peter Holme Obrestad
Hi! Could we please set up a forum for nb.wordpress.org? Looking into possibility of migrating from “norskwp.no/forum” — which is using bbPress. Would it be possible to import posts from there?
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Zé
We can setup the forum, but migration is going to be a headache, because of the missing .org user profile. We (pt) did that change a while ago and opted to start afresh and leave the old forum in read-only mode, for a while, for reference purposes.
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Peter Holme Obrestad
I see that continents-cities.po has been added to glotpress! Could you add me as validator for nb_NO? @peterhol
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Rafael Poveda - RaveN
Same for es_ES – @bi0xid 🙂
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Zé
I’ll add all current validators for wp core, no need to request it 😉
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Rafael Poveda - RaveN
Flash! Aaah! (we are excessively fast).
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Peter Holme
everything is going much faster now with WP 3.2 😉
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Peter Holme Obrestad
It seems the dist file `/wp-admin/setup-donfig.php` has been revisioned since 3.1… So, heads up (a little late) 🙂
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Zé
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Peter Holme
ah, thanks 🙂
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Stas Sușcov
Zé, somebody double posted your thread again 😀
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Zé
POIDNH
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Peter Holme Obrestad
I’ll take the Norwegian translation.. (nb_NO) – peterhol is my wp.com username 🙂
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Zé
All set
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Zé
Need a favor: you are listed as a validator for .com, could you take a look a the strings pending approval, when you get a chance? Thanks.
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Peter
well I can start.. but I must confess I can’t really give this priority. I don’t use wordpress.com (except this blog… and that’s in English…) And there is just sooo much to do in the Norwegian translation. But anyways: seems I’m still not validator in the Jetpack project – I can only suggest strings, not validate them…
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Zé
Try now?
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sulfsby
Peter, are you a team leader of the norwegian translation team for WordPress? I can contribute.
Is there a glossary for WordPress terms, so we use the same translation for the same terms?
There is one term I have never been familiar with, the translation of “plugin” to “innstikk”. I have never seen it elsewhere. Common translations are “programtillegg”, “tillegg” and “utvidelse”.
There is a new term in WP 3.2 “drop-in” which is a special kind of plugin. What shall we call it?
Other difficult terms are header and footer. Common translation of header is “topptekst”, but it is not necessarily a text. It can be an image. What about “sidetopp” or just “topp”?-
Peter
Hi, contributions are always welcome 🙂
- We started a glossary a while back: http://code.google.com/p/no-wp/wiki/Ordliste – but it might not be 100 % up-to-date. Feel free to suggest additions/alterations.
- Regarding “Innstikk”, that has been the term used for a while. I haven’t heard anyone reacting to its use before, so I suspect changing it now would only lead to unnecessary confusion…
- I don’t think drop-in is new… We’ve used “Innslipp” before (filter by drop-in)..
- I agree that “topptekst” is not an ideal translation for header. “sidetopp” seems better.. (and here I see that it might lead to LESS confusion, so that’s a good thing 🙂 ) But you have to realize that if we change this, we’ll have to do test it for consistency.. (looking at all instances of “header” in the strings to make sure “sidetopp” fits snugly everywhere…)
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sulfsby
In WP 3.1, I sometimes see english texts in (error-)messages. A scan with the plugin Codestyling Localization found 988 untranslated strings. But in the GlotPress project, there were no untranslated strings. Are the translations not approved or deployed?
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Peter
There are no untranslated strings in the public releases – I make sure there are only “green” strings in GlotPress… There may, theoretically, be unlocalized strings in the codebase, or there may be some issues with GlotPress. Could you please describe steps to reproduce the english (error) messages?
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sulfsby
I do not remember where I saw theese messages. I see however that in the dashboard the string “Other WordPress News” is used, even if it is translated.
I investigated the result of the scan by Codestyling Localization and forund that the untranslated strings seems to be related to the multisite version. There is also a list of continents and cities which is untranslated.
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Peter
- I think “Other WordPress News” is set at installation… not entirely sure… but you can change the name manually, anyways…
- ok I haven’t used codestyling localization, but please check that you have all the latest files (you can use http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/localize/ )
- continents-cities-nb_NO.mo and -.po are bundled with the norwegian packages at http://nb.wordpress.org/ . But it’s not in GlotPress, it’s in svn. This is the same for all continents-cities-xx_XX.mo files. The files are also available here: http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/nb_NO/trunk/messages/
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Peter
I looked over your translations in the 3.2 branch. Accepted most of it directly 🙂 thanks! One thing though: Look out for excess whitespace before, inside and after html tags…
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sulfsby
By an error I seem to have translatede some strings that were already translated.
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Peter
ok I’ll check…
Har noen bemerkninger:
- Pass på ordlyden… ikke stol på google translate 🙂 (ref feks “Se versjon xxx detaljene”, som jeg mener bør være “Se detaljene for versjon xxx” og “Tilpasset nettsted suspendert-melding”, som jeg mener bør være “Tilpasset melding for suspendert nettsted”)
- Orddeling/bindestrek – her følger jeg normen fra sprakrad.no. feks: Istedenfor “kategori til stikkord omformer” bør man skrive enten “kategori-til-stikkord-omformer” eller “kategori til stikkord-omformer”. Også feks “Akismet-tjenere” (ikke “Akismet tjenere”).
- Når det gjelder “on”, som i “Publish on”, pleier jeg som regel å droppe “on”, eller eventuelt bytte ut med en komma, hvis det passer. Her må man se på konteksten. I tilfellet “Publish on:” funker ikke dette helt, men jeg vil foreslå “Publiseres den:”
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Peter
og pass på infinitivsmerker… og iblant står det kommentarer hvis originalstrengen ser merkelig ut, som “Apr_April_abbreviation” – har skal ikke selve strengen oversettes, men man skal angi kortversjonen av “April”…
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Peter Holme Obrestad
Hi! Can someone create a nb_NO (Norwegian bokmål) locale for BuddyPress at GlotPress? And add me as validator? thanks 🙂
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Peter Holme Obrestad
Hi all! I just noticed that on wordpress.org, when visiting from a Norwegian IP, you see this on the front page:
Don’t really know if this is the place for these things… but it should read “WordPress is also available in Norsk (bokmål) and Norsk (nynorsk).”
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Peter
who should I talk to about wordpress.org, really?
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Peter Holme Obrestad
I didn’t see this until now… a few of the central dist-files have been slightly changed from 3.0.x to 3.1…
http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/16788/trunk/wp-admin/setup-config.php
http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/16099/trunk/wp-admin/setup-config.phphttp://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/16131/trunk/wp-config-sample.php
http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/16124/trunk/wp-config-sample.php-
Remkus de Vries
Thanks for the heads up. It would’ve been very easy to just copy pasta the current translated version 😛
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Stas Sușcov
I also got mailed by a user on this topic. Thanks for heads up!
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Sergey Biryukov
When preparing a new localized package, I guess it’s a good idea to download the English release and compare these files (including readme.html) to the ones from a previous release as a part of general sanity check.
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xavier
I always check about that directly in Trac. For instance:
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Peter
But perhaps it is a bit unnecessary for all polyglots to do this every time…? Especially since these files don’t change that often. If we post changes to wp-config-sample.php, setup-config.php and readme.html here when we see them – that would be a good thing for all polyglots, right? =)
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Zé
+1000
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xavier
Obviously 🙂 For the last couple of years (well, ever since /dist was introduced), that’s what I did. Now if core-devs could simply put the diffs on this very blog a few days before release time, that’d be great!
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Mark Thomas Gazel
Thanks. I usually check the files, but it’s nice to know what to expect. I do as Sergey. Download the english release a look for changes. I use WinMerge for the file comparison.
If there’s a smarter way or a better “compare files” tool I’m all ears.
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Peter Holme Obrestad
I created a new page
with a tag policyon how to tag your posts… check it out!-
Remkus de Vries
Shouldn’t the BuddyPress and bbPress stuff be addressed as well?
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Peter
sure… added.
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Zé
Sweet. Added the ‘forums’ tag
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Zé
Also added the ‘handbook’ tag (we keep forgetting about it)
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Peter
I didn’t even know there was a handbook… I guess this is what Remkus and I thought we should add here: https://wppolyglots.wordpress.com/resources/
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Zé
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Peter
shouldn’t it be possible to render something like this:
http://nikolay.bg/mess/handbook.html
on this site? It’s of course easy with a stand-alone install, but is there any “fairy dust” one could cast? (either to render the files from http://docs.svn.wordpress.org/ or creating some sort of wiki?)
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Zé
I think the page would be best called “How to tag your posts” and be shown on the sidebar
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Remkus de Vries
Agreed
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Peter
something like this? (see sidebar)
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Zé
Also good, I guess. I was thinking more in terms of the page title itself being “How to tag your posts” and have a pages widget. So as not to clutter the sidebar when more pages are shown.
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Peter Holme Obrestad
All right, I’ve posted some suggestions for improving the “mentions” functionality of the p2 theme to make this promising feature more useable: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/mentions?replies=1#post-1625903
(Discussion closed here, since it belongs in the forum)
Peter Holme Obrestad
All right.. there was a problem with the first setup.. Basically I didn’t know how to spell polyglots. But now I do! Happy blogging 😉
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Remkus de Vries
I’m surprised it took us all that long to actually see that 😛
Peter Holme Obrestad
Added a little info in the sidebar – but maybe we should add a page with info on how this blog is supposed to be used? If so, what should be put in that page? Feel free to contribute 🙂
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Peter
– FAQs (literally frequently asked questions and solutions gathered from the wp-polygots mailing list)
– links to relevant codex pages (which pages?) or tutorials on how to build localized pacakges, etc-
Remkus de Vries
yeah, I think that would be a good start. To start with a few:
http://codex.wordpress.org/Files_For_Direct_Translation
http://codex.wordpress.org/International_WordPress_Forums
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Remkus de Vries
I’d love to help out in writing a tutorial on how to build a localized package.. seeing as I have just learned how to do that 😀
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Peter
Cool! I’ve given you a page to play around with: https://wppolyglots.wordpress.com/resources/
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Remkus de Vries
cool beans 🙂 but as an author I’m not allowed to edit pages 😉
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Peter
that’s why I made you the author of that page… you sure you can’t edit it?
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Remkus de Vries
yep.. I don’t even have a Pages menu 🙂
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Peter
well.. you’re an editor now. Does that help?
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Peter
@defries: Did you want to edit this: https://wppolyglots.wordpress.com/resources/ ? I haven’t linked to it from the front page yet, ’cause it’s empty – but just say when, and I’ll create a nice link in the sidebar..
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Peter Holme Obrestad
What to post – Status update, Blog Post, Quote or Link?
- For short questions, updates and stuff – use “Status Update”
- For instructions, informational posts (like this one), use “Blog Post”
- “Quotes” are quotes. Haven’t found a use for this one yet…
- “Links” are for really cool stuff on the web that can help our community
Remember to tag posts! If the update is about something specific to a locale, tag it with that locale (ie “nb_NO”)
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Remkus de Vries
Sounds about right 🙂
Peter Holme Obrestad
Welcome to WP Polyglots. I took the liberty to create this blog – since I think it could be a better place for discussion than an old-school mailing list. Please feel free to express your opinion on this!
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Mr WordPress
Awesome!
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Remkus
I think in a lot of cases this would work a lot better, no sure how this would break the current work flow from the Polyglots guys..
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Zé
We can adapt :), no worries. I actually think this a better solution than the mailing list
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Remkus
So how would you allow people to post here?
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Zé
Anybody with a .com account can post
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Peter
If it gets spammed, I guess we could just add the members of wp-polygots as authors, and we could add new users when they get validator access…
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Zé
Akismet FTW!
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Peter
does that apply when creating new posts on a p2 blog?
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Zé
Nope
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Remkus de Vries
some custom code you apply?
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Zé
I wish
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Remkus de Vries
A few levels more levels deep comment threading would be welcome btw 🙂 But aren’t you worried that even with Akismet in place it will be too much?
Isn’t there a way to collect of list of people with commit access and for the moment only allow those to post here?
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Peter
isn’t 5 enough..? (I just realized that even though comments are added dynamically in real time, you have to refresh the page to get the option to reply to a comment)
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Remkus de Vries
5 should be enough, but I thought it was three a few minutes back…
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Peter
We’ll just have to see how deep this rabbit hole is..
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Peter
OMG 😉
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Peter
This is getting wierd!
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Remkus de Vries
You’ve got to love P2 😀
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Zé
Also, much the same way anyone can register for and post on the mailing list, I am not in favor of “adding users”. They only need a .com account (not even a blog, if they don’t want one)
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Peter
ok, we’ll just see how this goes 😉
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Remkus de Vries
So, first just a trial or just even better send a proper introduction email to the current list?
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Zé
Let’s just go full steam. It only gets interesting when we start breaking things, and we haven’t broken anything in a while 🙂
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Remkus de Vries
Great argument 🙂
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Stas Sușcov
Added to reader.
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eyesx
This works too (except from the background 😉 makes my eyes angry :p )
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Peter
oh common… it’s so much nicer than a plain grey background… and if you hate it so much – just make your browser window less wide, and it will go away 😉
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Mattias Tengblad
Thank god for Ad-block 😉
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Mattias Tengblad 9:04 am on October 26th, 2011 Permalink |
Good 🙂
littlebouddha 9:15 am on October 26th, 2011 Permalink |
Good initiative, thanks
frilyd 11:38 am on October 26th, 2011 Permalink |
Thanks. Highly needed. Some info here on wppolyglots about the issue from the maintainers might be useful, too.
Mattias Tengblad 8:19 pm on October 26th, 2011 Permalink |
+1
Kenan Dervišević 3:36 pm on October 26th, 2011 Permalink |
Nice 🙂
Also, I managed to reproduce the annoying caching issue on my Apache server. Maybe something simillar could be applied here to fix this?
Mattias Tengblad 2:39 pm on October 29th, 2011 Permalink |
Would be appreciated if maintainers looked into this issue, especially considering that we are in the middle of a release cycle. It has been very quiet (this also applies to earlier mentioned cache issue, issues that might be related).